19
Mar

Suburban Rail Proposal Off Track

   Posted by: Ocksen Khart   in The Cairns Post

Today on ABC radio, I heard Fiona Sewell interviewing a public transport advocate who was bemoaning the congestion that occurs on our roads, and I don’t disagree with his sentiments. He was particularly focused on the cities southern access and the seriously under-utilised rail corridor that follows the highway most of the way into town. His suggestion was that instead of spending money on the improving the road, the money should instead be allocated to the railway so that it can be duplicated and used as a suburban commuter service. Now this I have problems with.

I am a big supporter of rail transport, and happen to know a bit about how they work. However some of the assumptions made by the spokesperson for this group are a little tenuous and should be analysed, together with the overall concept of the proposal.

I also apologise that I was in the car and was listening to this on the radio, so I could not take any notes, so this is written relying on my dodgy memory. It also means that I don’t have the persons name who was interviewed, nor the name of his group. Hopefully the trusty commenters on this site will fill in some of the gaps for me.

Lets start with costs. When asked about cost of this project, it was clear that the interviewee had not done a full cost analysis, nor did he demonstrate any particular understanding of how railways work. It is just a little more complicated than chucking in some extra railway tracks. But lets start costs.

It was stated that if the money allocated for the southern access road upgrade was reallocated to the and halved again ‘that would be about right’. Sorry. That would be about right doesn’t cut it. One of the biggest criticisms of government projects is cost over runs, and with fiscal policy tightening in tough economic times, any lobby group going to Government with a proposal needs to have it accurately costed and with a cost benefit analysis to go with it. But using his numbers, we know that the allocation for the southern access upgrade is $150M. Half again makes it $225M. So now we have a budget (best of luck getting it)

There are a range of numbers that can be used for railway construction. From the Victorian department of Infrastructure there is double track surface rail at $1.9M per Km in 2002 dollars. This becomes $2.34M in 2008 dollars (which is all the RBA inflation calculator goes up to). This does not include land acquisitions, and with with any luck the proposed line can be built in the current corridor. That’s double track, we already have one, but you can’t actually just half the cost. Compliance costs to work adjacent to a live running line are going exhaust most of that assumed saving. In other words protecting the workers, and the trains while work progresses. Its cheaper to work a green fields site in the long run. Another example we could use is a recent line that was build in Geraldton WA, were 12 km of single track was laid on an alignment built generously enough for two tracks. This line cost $88M at near enough to $7M per Km. This is a completed costs that would include signalling, bridges, and other infrastructure required to support a railway. For the purpose of our railway. Lets get our track down for $2M per Km

Cairns to Gordonvale is 24 km. That’s $48M. Looking good so far. There are 8 bridges on the section between Cairns and Gordonvale, so that is going to anywhere from one to two million per bridge. We will split the difference and assume $1.5M, so that’s another $12M. Now what about all those level crossings. Running the trains at the proposed frequency is going to need some serious upgrade work, especially when you can have trains coming from either direction. There are 24 level crossing in the section and some already have adequate protection, and some are just farm crossings. But that will still leave about half of the crossings needing an upgrade at an average of $300k per crossing. So 12 crossings is $3.6, but we’ll up that to $4M just to be safe. $64M so far. But we haven’t purchased any trains, stations or signalling yet.

Signals are the key to railway safety when you are running frequencies proposed by this group. These a placed every few hundred metres so you can run your trains five minutes apart which is what talked about. The Vic DOI price signalling at $0.995M per Km. Rounding up to be safe, lets say an even Mill, that is another $24M for our railway. Up to $88M

We are going to need some trains to run on this system. Trains travelling at 5 minutes apart was mentioned. A train takes 40 minutes to travel from Cairns to Gordonvale. Commuter trains will be able to do it quicker, but if you plant a bunch of stations on the route, then it will still take 40 mintues at best. A five minute headway means at any given time, there will be 5 trains on the route. Assuming that the peak travel time is between 0700 and 0900 and then from 1600 to 1800 (as is indicated by the traffic on the road) then you need another eight going in the other direction to keep a constant stream of trains maintaining the peak headways. Sixteen trains. You need a few up your sleeve for maintenance, overhaul or defect repair so a fleet of 20 trains should do it. These must be built new, because there are simply none on the second hand market. QR use to have a fleet of over 20 two car railmotor sets, and these used to operate all over the state. Most are now gone. So if a new generation of two car railmotor is brought into service you need to purchase forty units. Allow about $3m per car, as this is about the going rate of new rolling stock coming out of the factory in Maryborough. $120M. We are now up to $208M, but we haven’t considered maintenance facilities, (Portsmith would need to be upgraded) sidings, stations, car parks, and one or two other minor issues that probably should be considered.

The capacity of each railmotor set would be around 100 seats. So we can move 1200 people an hour if they were seated. Crush loading can up the anti to maybe 2000 people an hour. That’s not bad, and would make a nice ding in the road congestion. But if we’ve spend all that money, how will we guarantee we’d get that sort of patronage?

You could buy less trains, have greater headways (say 15 minutes – they aspire to 15 minute frequencies in Brisbane), but you won’t make much of impact on congestion. In fact, you’re getting back to the capabilities of buses. A single route might benefit the people living along the southern corridor, but remember, not everybody works in the City. Many of Cairns industrial areas would not be served by the rail and lots of our potential passengers work in those areas, nor would it benefit anybody living north and west of Earlville. This is a big chunk of the population. So although we might try to justify the railway against the population of a city the size of Cairns, you are only catering to a population that is a quarter of the total. And is Joe Blow from Timberlea, or Pyramid estate, really going to bother to drive, or catch a bus to the station, ride the train then potentially need to transfer to another means of transport to get to his ultimate destination? This is a major cultural change.

How will the problem of the long distance trains and the Kuranda Scenic trains be dealt with? These trains need considerable time at the platform to load their passengers and provisions, and the solution is either a dedicated long distance platform or new suburban station. Remember, we have trains arriving and departing every five to fifteen minutes. Where to put it? What cost?

And what about that investment in rolling stock? It will be well utilised for no more than four hours a day, then most will sit in a siding or yard for the remainder. This is a problem with most public transport is its off peak utilisation.

Unfortunately the answer for the congestion to the south of Cairns is buses. Upgrade the highway, but consider dedicated bus lanes, especially for peak hours. Lets face it, buses are far more versatile and can go anywhere there is a road. If you’re lucky, that could mean right out side your door or your work. They are cheaper to procure, but yes, in the long run they are not so environmentally friendly as a train.

Yes, the railway line south of Cairns needs improvement. For Freight trains. Lets look at getting some long distance trucks off the road, and flood proofing the railway line while the adjacent road is being done.

Cheers,

The Ox

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11 comments so far

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A recent study I saw on the net, I think it was English showed that trams (light rail) while more expensive to construct, is cheaper in the long run. A cost savings could be made if the same trams for the Gold Coast tramway is used in Cairns.

Trams have the benefit of being able to run on the road, and off the road on their own tracks. No need for fancy stations or signalling systems either.

March 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
 2 

It’s good to see debate on this issue. I’m a member of the public transport advocacy group you’re referring to. We’re a local volunteer community group called Cairns Action for Sustainable Transport. We have open meetings once a month and we’d encourage you to contact us and get involved if you’re interested. For more info & contact details see http://www.takesteps.org/cast. You’ll also find on that website more detail of our proposal for commuter light rail in Cairns. We had a public meeting recently which attracted around 100 people where we presented the proposal in more detail. That presentation will be uploaded to the website shortly.

We encourage you to look at that material because you have very much over-simplified our proposal. Our proposal is certainly not the be-all-and-end-all but we believe that a serious public transport system for Cairns – which is able to move serious numbers and which people will actually USE – will need to involve rail as the main spine of the system. By that we’re not only talking of utilising the main line for commuter travel, but also utilising cane corridors and existing roads for an integrated light rail system that connects up with buses and cyclists for shorter trips. Using triple-gauge lines, the same vehicles could be used on the main lines and cain train lines without disrupting either.

Our state government has so far come up with a vague and half-hearted bus rapid transit plan which involves very low targets for public transport uptake and deserts Cairns to an overwhelmingly car-dependent and increasingly gridlocked and high-emitting future.

So many other cities have seen their rail and tram infrastructure ripped up years ago only to try to piece it back together now. In Cairns we have a rare opportunity to put in place a good system now, not after the damage is done. Unlike other cities, we already have the foundations for a light rail system. We just need to use and build on what we already have.

We are trying to put together a costs analysis as you suggest, and we would appreciate any sources you may have.

There are certainly large costs involved at the outset.But the consensus on our research is that it is the cheapest system in the longer term, as Sara states above.

It is somewhat ironic that no Australian government or authority that we are aware of has ever done a similar cost-benefit analysis of private vehicle dependency. The true costs have never been added up. ie the costs of roads, maintenance, traffic accidents, enforcement, pollution and the less direct costs like the drain on our health system of more sedentary lifestyles. Nor has the Qld govt done a cost-benefit analysis of its bus rapid transit proposal relative to any other model.

It is always for the community campaigners to make their case with detailed costings. So be it, we will do our best.

If you agree that Cairns sorely needs better public transport, then I think you will agree that it is better to support the only active group working on this than to critice from afar. It would be naive to think that we can just sit back and wait for our state govt to provide proper public transport for Cairns. It will never happen unless we demand it.

Cheers,
Renee

April 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
trisha
 3 

nice idea Renee, but why not use the buses. if some of the boxes were upgraded to decent buses, perhaps more people would use them? not only that, but you need to actually have incentives in placed to get people to use it. thats why no one uses the buses. that, plus the schedules are impractical. fix the bus system before you go spending more taxpayer funds on something else that won’t be used.

April 16th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
 4 

A study of Melbourne found that:
A bus route has a capture zone of around 600m from the line. A tram line around 1.1km and heavy rail approx 2km.

So tram lines allow a basic doubling of the capture area, compared to buses, and a far better for the public and the environment.

April 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Ocksen Khart
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Hi Renee,

Thanks for your follow up comments. As I stated in my original post, it was written with very little research (although possibly a stack more than the Cairns Post would invest on a similar project), hence its over simplification. Mind you, this was in response to a less than convincing case put forward on the radio, and only referred to using the railway alignment south of Cairns. My article also pre-dates your meeting and *that* story in the Cairns Post by a couple of weeks. Also it was a good chance to put into words my thoughts on the occasional comment that ends up in the letters to the editor column in TCP.

I would love to see your plans come to fruition, and will certainly check out your site. I do predict issues with using the cane corridors, especially from a rail regulatory point of view, but I won’t pessimistically write it off. When you look at a recently built (and growing) public transport system, like Hong Kongs MTR (started life in about 1979) you can get a very good appreciation of how effective PT can be when properly planned and coordinated. This is not to suggest we should be pumping for an MTR style system – our population, transport culture and geographical likely destination profile (a phrase I just proudly invented!) would not stack up to such a system.

Now to give the Cairns post a quick whacking. It is clear that they do not consider Cairns Action for Sustainable Transport, or their proposal, very seriously. What were they thinking posting that very poor photoshop of an obsolete Melbourne W class tram in a cane paddock? Another slow news day? Puerile condescending rubbish and demonstrates a complete lack of respect and understanding of the issues CAST are advocating.

Despite Tricia’s claim inaccurate claim that no one uses the buses (because clearly they do), there is room for improvement in the service. Also, I wonder if the words you wrote merely bounced of Tricia’s eyeballs and did not get absorbed – I’m pretty sure I read the bit where you offered a proper cost benefit analysis rather than demanding tax payers money for your project. There are a raft of studies that suggest a rail system is far more attractive to the commuter than a bus system, more or less destroying the claim that no one would use it. However, it has to be used to an extent where it relieves road congestion, and provides a community benefit for the investment made in it. This last part is the bit that will be difficult to achieve. This is why in a place the size and shape of Cairns, a decent bus service might be the answer. They are available off the shelf where you to upgrade the service. For dedicated bus paths (this would be essential for the system to work) there are some interesting alignments available. The old rail alignment from behind the racecourse and between the two Spence Streets should be reserved as a public transport corridor. Mill Road at Edmonton used to be the train line to Hambleton Mill, and could also be a dedicated PT reserve (or part thereof) for the growth area at the back of Edmonton. CAST’s work is to work out where they need to deliver their passengers.

Cheers,

The Ox

April 16th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Ocksen Khart
 6 

There are a raft of studies that suggest a rail system is far more attractive to the commuter than a bus system, more or less destroying the claim that no one would use it

When I wrote that bit above, I was afraid I might get challenged for the research. Thank you to Sara Lee for easing my trepidation.

April 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
trisha
 7 

one only has to look at traffic gridlock in the mornings on the southside, and coming from the northern beaches. the buses are empty, and cars have one person in them. that’s how i know the buses aren’t used. TCP today says 50,000 cars A DAY drive into the CBD. that is insane. its all well and good saying there are existing lines that could potentially be used for light rail. but these don’t exist all through the city, do they. out to the uni? the hospital? who is going to pay to resume the land to build light rail?

April 18th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Ocksen Khart
 8 

the buses are empty, and cars have one person in them. that’s how i know the buses aren’t used

Your statement brings your powers of observation and competence to rationally discuss a point into serious question. Contrary to your observations, when I go to work I see healthily patronised buses, and people waiting at the various stops along the way. But unlike you, I chose not to rely on my powers of observation to make a point, but followed up by contacting actual people who drive Sunbuses. They confirmed that indeed peak hour loadings are healthy and in some cases a somewhat packed. So to say they are empty is just rubbish.

Off peak runs are not particularly well patronised, but certainly not empty. However much of what is being discussed here is solutions to ease peak hour congestion.

Oh, and the TCP story was about parking stress in the CBD likely to arise in view of proposed parking fee hikes and Cairns Central introducing fees after a certain time to discourage city workers from parking there all day. The quoted 50000 cars per day, while interesting, is not particularly relevant because it does not split the loadings into the critical periods during the peak hour. Yet the over all issue is relevant to what is being discussed here.

Hiking up the parking fees, might make public transport suddenly more attractive, and presumably there is plenty of room in the empty buses you observe. I do agree that there are too many singly occupied vehicles on the roads, especially in peak periods. Car pooling would go along way to alleviating much of the congestion.

April 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
 9 

The advantage of light rail is being able to run both on and off road. Light rail is simply the current buzz word for trams.
It has clear advantages over buses, especially in terms of passenger comfort and loading abilities. While it is a problem if a line is blocked, you just have to look at Melbourne, which has a majority of on street running, and is one of the largest networks in the world. In Melbourne there are very few delays caused by tracks being blocked.

In terms of land resumptions, very little, if any would have to be done for a well designed system.

April 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
 10 

NEWSFLASH: The results are in. A cost benefit analysis has now been done by CAST (Cairns Action for Sustainable Transport) comparing a light rail system for Cairns to a bus-only system, using the govt’s own figures.

As we suspected, the light rail option comes out the cheapest option for Cairns over the medium to long term.

The study is not yet up on our website but please contact us for more info. (http://www.takesteps.org/cast or cairnsactionforsustainabletransport.blogspot.com)

Sara, we’d appreciate it if you could point us to your sources for some of your info, eg the Melbourne study of capture zones. Sounds helpful.

Lastly, I’d encourage Sara & others involved in this debate to get involved in CAST. We need all the help we can get if we’re going to get some real action from our governments on public transport for Cairns.(http://www.takesteps.org/cast or cairnsactionforsustainabletransport.blogspot.com)

May 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
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Hi Renee,
Sorry for the delay in my reply, I have been looking for online versions of the studies done, but alas, nothing found.

The majority of my information came from reading old Melbourne & Metropolitan Tramways Board (MMTB) reports, and studies conducted during the “The Met” and the “PTC” (Public Transport Corporation), during the 1980’s and early 1990’s.

The Victorian State library would have many of these articles on record, so it might be worth contacting them. The Tramway Museum Society of Victoria also has copies of these reports, but I doubt they would be willing to release them.
HooRoo,
Sara Lee.

June 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 am

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